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		<title>By: Putting the Sex (back) into American Politics? : Tama Leaver dot Net</title>
		<link>http://www.tamaleaver.net/2007/03/20/hilary-1984/comment-page-1/#comment-5134</link>
		<dc:creator>Putting the Sex (back) into American Politics? : Tama Leaver dot Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] culture (remember Jib Jab&#8217;s&#160;&#8216;This Land&#8217;?), and this years&#8217;&#160;Hillary 1984 video promised more in the race for 2008.&#160; While the creativity is definitely out there, one thing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] culture (remember Jib Jab&#8217;s&nbsp;&#8216;This Land&#8217;?), and this years&#8217;&nbsp;Hillary 1984 video promised more in the race for 2008.&nbsp; While the creativity is definitely out there, one thing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tama</title>
		<link>http://www.tamaleaver.net/2007/03/20/hilary-1984/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Tama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 05:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the last two seconds were taken off the clip (the bit with Obama&#039;s website) then I don&#039;t think anyone would connect this clip with his campaign at all.  It also seems the least polished two seconds of the clip - I wonder if perhaps it wasn&#039;t created by the same people who did the mashing?

On a side note: I always find it amazing that each party has all of this dramatic in-fighting before their own primaries only to put on a unified face by the time the presidential elections begin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the last two seconds were taken off the clip (the bit with Obama&#8217;s website) then I don&#8217;t think anyone would connect this clip with his campaign at all.  It also seems the least polished two seconds of the clip &#8211; I wonder if perhaps it wasn&#8217;t created by the same people who did the mashing?</p>
<p>On a side note: I always find it amazing that each party has all of this dramatic in-fighting before their own primaries only to put on a unified face by the time the presidential elections begin!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 05:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt the intention is for people to see it as an overtly anti-Obama ad.  I think it is designed meant more to hurt Obama&#039;s likability among voters, since that is his greatest strength, and perhaps one of Hillary Clinton&#039;s greatest weaknesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the intention is for people to see it as an overtly anti-Obama ad.  I think it is designed meant more to hurt Obama&#8217;s likability among voters, since that is his greatest strength, and perhaps one of Hillary Clinton&#8217;s greatest weaknesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Tama</title>
		<link>http://www.tamaleaver.net/2007/03/20/hilary-1984/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Tama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 05:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, that&#039;s certainly a well thought-through alternative interpretation.  I must admit, if the clip was trying to make Clinton look evil and Orwellian, there are probably better sounds bytes.  That said, even if viewers were unfamiliar with the 1984 origins - or the original ad - I suspect the destruction of Hillary-on-the-screen makes it hard to see this clip as supporting her campaign!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, that&#8217;s certainly a well thought-through alternative interpretation.  I must admit, if the clip was trying to make Clinton look evil and Orwellian, there are probably better sounds bytes.  That said, even if viewers were unfamiliar with the 1984 origins &#8211; or the original ad &#8211; I suspect the destruction of Hillary-on-the-screen makes it hard to see this clip as supporting her campaign!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.tamaleaver.net/2007/03/20/hilary-1984/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 05:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am deeply suspicious of this ad.

The soundbites seem to be completely wrong for the ad.  I realize there is a certain irony in the original, which juxtaposes &quot;we shall prevail&quot; with the throwing of the hammer.  But in the original, the voice has an obviously evil quality to it.  These soundbites are Hillary&#039;s explicit attempt to come across as a regular person, having a &quot;conversation&quot; with each of us individually, whereas the original ad speaks of &quot;one people, one will, one resolve, one cause,&quot; and &quot;a garden of pure ideology where each worker may bloom, secure from the pests of any contradictory thoughts.&quot;  Meanwhile, the Hillary soundbite says &quot;I don&#039;t want people who agree with me.&quot;  Also, the image of big brother is dark, and blends in with the dark wall in the original commercial, while the imagine of Clinton is bright white, an aberration in the monolithic room

If I had to guess at the source of this video, I would bet it came from the Clinton campaign.  Imagine seeing it without any knowledge of the original. Most people probably don&#039;t remember the original all that well.  Here is an alternative interpretation of the Clinton video: Clinton is trying to awaken people who have become used to politics as a competitive sport, or partisan war, rather than a discussion, an exchange of ideas, about how to make everyone better off.  Hillary says that it&#039;s &quot;really good&quot; that &quot;so far, we haven&#039;t stopped talking.&quot;  However, some evil forces don&#039;t want you to keep talking.  Right before the hammer is thrown, the text on the screen over Hillary reads, &quot;this is our conversation.&quot;  The next time we see the screen, a smiling Hillary again says she &quot;hopes to keep this conversation going,&quot; just before the sledge hammer smashes into the screen.  In the original ad, following the initial explosion as the sledgehammer crashes into the screen, we hear a light, cool breeze, suggesting freedom.  This sound appears to have been slowed down in the Clinton video, lowering the pitch and suggesting the cold wind of emptiness and despair.  By this point we are really wondering who would be so evil as to want to end &quot;our conversation.&quot;  We then see a bright white screen which says, &quot;On January 14th, the Democratic primary will begin.  And you&#039;ll see why 2008 won&#039;t be like &#039;1984.&#039;&quot;  Note that 1984 has a significance in presidential politics quite apart from Orwell&#039;s book.  1984 was the year Walter Mondale, running as an unabashed liberal, lost every state in the nation except Minnesota.  The white screen, associated with Clinton, promises a different outcome in 2008, until it is covered over by a pitch black screen bearing Barack Obama&#039;s web address.  It must be he who wishes to end the conversation.</description>
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<p>The soundbites seem to be completely wrong for the ad.  I realize there is a certain irony in the original, which juxtaposes &#8220;we shall prevail&#8221; with the throwing of the hammer.  But in the original, the voice has an obviously evil quality to it.  These soundbites are Hillary&#8217;s explicit attempt to come across as a regular person, having a &#8220;conversation&#8221; with each of us individually, whereas the original ad speaks of &#8220;one people, one will, one resolve, one cause,&#8221; and &#8220;a garden of pure ideology where each worker may bloom, secure from the pests of any contradictory thoughts.&#8221;  Meanwhile, the Hillary soundbite says &#8220;I don&#8217;t want people who agree with me.&#8221;  Also, the image of big brother is dark, and blends in with the dark wall in the original commercial, while the imagine of Clinton is bright white, an aberration in the monolithic room</p>
<p>If I had to guess at the source of this video, I would bet it came from the Clinton campaign.  Imagine seeing it without any knowledge of the original. Most people probably don&#8217;t remember the original all that well.  Here is an alternative interpretation of the Clinton video: Clinton is trying to awaken people who have become used to politics as a competitive sport, or partisan war, rather than a discussion, an exchange of ideas, about how to make everyone better off.  Hillary says that it&#8217;s &#8220;really good&#8221; that &#8220;so far, we haven&#8217;t stopped talking.&#8221;  However, some evil forces don&#8217;t want you to keep talking.  Right before the hammer is thrown, the text on the screen over Hillary reads, &#8220;this is our conversation.&#8221;  The next time we see the screen, a smiling Hillary again says she &#8220;hopes to keep this conversation going,&#8221; just before the sledge hammer smashes into the screen.  In the original ad, following the initial explosion as the sledgehammer crashes into the screen, we hear a light, cool breeze, suggesting freedom.  This sound appears to have been slowed down in the Clinton video, lowering the pitch and suggesting the cold wind of emptiness and despair.  By this point we are really wondering who would be so evil as to want to end &#8220;our conversation.&#8221;  We then see a bright white screen which says, &#8220;On January 14th, the Democratic primary will begin.  And you&#8217;ll see why 2008 won&#8217;t be like &#8217;1984.&#8217;&#8221;  Note that 1984 has a significance in presidential politics quite apart from Orwell&#8217;s book.  1984 was the year Walter Mondale, running as an unabashed liberal, lost every state in the nation except Minnesota.  The white screen, associated with Clinton, promises a different outcome in 2008, until it is covered over by a pitch black screen bearing Barack Obama&#8217;s web address.  It must be he who wishes to end the conversation.</p>
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